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  V...where is he?

  by Ultimate Reality in

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  this came up a few weeks ago; does anyone know if v is ok?

  his youtube page shows his last log-in at 1 month ago.

  anybody have any news?.

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  This came up a few weeks ago; does anyone know if V is ok? His YouTube page shows his last log-in at 1 month ago. Anybody have any news?
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  A "My Book of Bible Stories" tale that I've always hated

  by JimmyPage in

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  i've always hated story #53: "jepthah's promise".

  i always felt sorry for the daughter who had to spend the rest of her days at the tabernacle because her father made a numb-nuts promise to god.

  who did he think he was, making promises for other people?

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  I have noticed this account used more often lately in the Watchtower, as a positive example of how we should live up to our vow of dedication. Either way, this is twisted. Whether she was killed or not, it is fairly clear that the Bible does not present this situation as something positive or desirable.
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  Hi I hope i am welcome

  by cantleave in

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  hi guys and gals,.

  i am a hypocryte.

  brought up in the "truth" but know its not.

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  Welcome, and thank you for sharing!
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  Spiritual Food from Christ since October 1874 proves Russell's Chronology!

  by Ultimate Reality in

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  in the october 1, 1904 watchtower, page 298, the 587 bce chronology issue is raised by a reader.

  below are the final comments of a lengthy defense.

  i thought it worth sharing.... .

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  Let me also add that "Patterson" has recently used this article in private letters to individuals that challenge the chronology. Their argument being that this is an old issue they have seen before -- of course that argument does not address the challenge and problems with the 607 date. However, when they quote from this article, they do not provide the full reference, only a couple sentences that seem to bolster their current claim.
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  Spiritual Food from Christ since October 1874 proves Russell's Chronology!

  by Ultimate Reality in

  1. watchtower
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  in the october 1, 1904 watchtower, page 298, the 587 bce chronology issue is raised by a reader.

  below are the final comments of a lengthy defense.

  i thought it worth sharing.... .

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  Old Hippie: The quote above is part of the reply to a question addressed to the author of Millennial Dawn and the Watch Tower. I do not say that Russell actually penned the words above. Nevertheless, that would seem to be a distinction without a difference since it is defending Russell's chronology and was written in the Watch Tower.
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  Spiritual Food from Christ since October 1874 proves Russell's Chronology!

  by Ultimate Reality in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the october 1, 1904 watchtower, page 298, the 587 bce chronology issue is raised by a reader.

  below are the final comments of a lengthy defense.

  i thought it worth sharing.... .

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  Ultimate Reality

  In the October 1, 1904 Watchtower, page 298, the 587 BCE chronology issue is raised by a reader. Below are the final comments of a lengthy defense. I thought it worth sharing...

  "A move of nineteen years, as the brother suggests above -- or for that matter a change of even one year -- would affect all the time prophecies of Vol. III. of the DAWN. The 1260 days, the 1290 days, the 1335 days, the 2300 days of Daniel, would all be thrown out of gear, out of the beautiful relationship shown in the Parallel Dispensations.

  We all remember how we were thrilled when first studying we found that the parallels of dispensation showed that our Lord was due to be present in October, 1874, as the exact parallel of the beginning of his ministry and the “harvest” of the Jewish age; and how this thrill was intensified when we found the same date exactly marked by the Jubilee type; and how we almost shouted for joy when we found that Daniel’s “1335 days” ended at precisely the same date; and, finally, how we repeated over and over the Prophet's words, “Oh, the blessedness of him that waiteth and cometh unto the 1335 days.”

  What a blessedness indeed ! As the Apostle intimated it would be, so we have found it, “Times of refreshing!” Take away these parallels, disjoint this testimony by changing any part of the chronology, and you have a still mightier work before you; -- the work of accounting for the rich spiritual food the Lord has been supplying to us since October, 1874 -- since the time of his presence, and in full accord with his promise that he would gird himself and become the servant of his true ones at his second presence and serve them “meat in due season,” sending it at the hands of his faithful servants. We have dealt with this subject at greater length than it may seem to deserve, believing that it may stimulate some to follow the Apostle's exhortation, "Let us give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest we let them slip."-Heb. 2: 1."
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  Calling Young Brothers to Bethel while Kicking Out the Loyal Ones

  by Ultimate Reality in

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  this week marks the news of two "young" brothers i know being accepted to brooklyn bethel.. this pattern continues to demonstrate the current "human resources" policy of the current gb.

  while telling those that have spent the best years of their life, "we need you in the field", they continue to bring in the healthy, unsuspecting young brothers so they can be used up with nothing to show for it late in life.. at last year's d.c. there was an interview with a brother that had been "sent back to the field" some 4 months prior to the convention.

  what was so sad, is that the brother was clearly alone, and perhaps scared, in his new assignment in a remote rural area with a congregation of 40. he had been accepted to bethel after high school, never pioneered, and had been at bethel for 30 years!

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  This week marks the news of two "young" brothers I know being accepted to Brooklyn Bethel.

  This pattern continues to demonstrate the current "human resources" policy of the current GB. While telling those that have spent the best years of their life, "we need you in the field", they continue to bring in the healthy, unsuspecting young brothers so they can be used up with nothing to show for it late in life.

  At last year's D.C. there was an interview with a brother that had been "sent back to the field" some 4 months prior to the convention. What was so sad, is that the brother was clearly alone, and perhaps scared, in his new assignment in a remote rural area with a congregation of 40. He had been accepted to bethel after high school, never pioneered, and had been at bethel for 30 years! Now, nearly 50 years of age, he was in a strange place, with no family, trying to "work the field". When asked the classic question "How has JEHOVAH BLESSED you?!", he started to trip on his words, saying that "it was too early in the assignment to really say, things had been challenging..." But then he pulled it together. With how tightly controlled the interviews are, he must have been off script. It was a rare moment of honesty.

  As I listened to this man, I truly felt sorry for him. Here he had sacrificed his life for the organization. Now, he was all alone.

  And yet, the GB is still calling the young brothers "from the field" to Brooklyn. Woe to the hypocrites.
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  Watchtower negotiates with Town of Ramapo over taxes

  by lrkr in

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  http://www.lohud.com/article/20090615/news03/906150341/1019.

  enjoy guys!

  front page, above the fold this morning..

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  Perhaps it will be a compound for the GB and the Legal Department; this way the GB can further isolate themselves.
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  Very confused-help please

  by hatchetsup in

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  just found this board late last night and can't stop reading, it's fascinating.. let me give you a quick background of myself.

  i was born a jw, never baptized, was labeled bad association when i was 12 due to having all worldy friends and smoking, lol.

  i was very confused how being that young i could be labelled as that but i was.

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  Another very good and comprehensive source is jwfacts.com. As one who was born-in, baptized, and served in various capacities, I have found it both accurate and beneficial.
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  Scan/Image Request - 2520 years / 1914 / 607 BCE / 70 years

  by Ultimate Reality in

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  does anyone have a scan (or publication suggestion) for an illustrated chart in any of the wt publications that lays out the "appointed times of the nations"?

  preferably one that highlights all the significant points, especially the 70 years and 1914, or even better, 1919.. thank you in advance..

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  Ultimate Reality

  Does anyone have a scan (or publication suggestion) for an illustrated chart in any of the WT publications that lays out the "Appointed Times of the Nations"? Preferably one that highlights all the significant points, especially the 70 years and 1914, or even better, 1919.

  Thank you in advance.